by Jessica Ortner
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We are talking with Ryan Holiday in this episode. Ryan is a media strategist and prominent writer on strategy and business and he shares his stories with us today on philosophy and goats!
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Follow Ryan and Sam’s goats on Instagram (because pictures of cute goats are good for your health)

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You can pick up Ryans’ book, The Obstacle is The Way here

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Ryan’s Book Recommendations
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, translated by Gregory Hays
On The Shortness of Life by Seneca
What is Ancient Philosophy? by Pierre Hadot
Letters from a Stoic by Seneca
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